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Originally Posted by eezi-ulgen
sentient
That's some real good stuff on the dog and the swan...
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In the
“Path of Souls: The Native American Death Journey”, the Mississippian Mound Builders had the Spider as well:
1. From a mound, Missouri.
2. From a stone-grave, Illinois.
3. From a mound, Illinois.
4. From a mound, Tennessee.
(The top one looks a bit like the “Central Sun”).
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/4256.../images/61.jpg
Quite similar to the Udmurt/Komi belief, where the Golden Spider Thread can - like balancing on a tightrope - lead you past the Dark Rift, the Dark River into the Light, into the “Central Sun” (of ‘Enlightment’), but get spooked & all tangled up, hesitate, lose your balance or walk back and the Spider net will get you. Game over, reincarnate and try again …
So, the Spider is both the adversary and/or the ‘liberator’, depending ….
The name for the ‘ancestor place/shelf’ for my ½ Forest Saami ½ ‘Karelian’ (but from Komi/Veps ancestry as well) … gran was an Udmurt word. So, the ‘song’ within her, which identified her by her ancestral beliefs was the ‘Permian’ “Spider Mother”.
P.S.
Found a shortened version of the
“Path of Souls: The Native American Death Journey”
Spider from 14:30 to 15:00
…. But here the Spider is placed at the Orion (hand), the first part of the sky journey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c5p...annel=atagreg1