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Old 02-06-2024, 11:31 AM
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I think you have articulated it very well weareunity..

One key aspect in my own process that became an important understanding with regards to my own and others lives, was to never underestimate the simplicity of connection, a smile, a kind gesture. Being present without judgement. Everything becomes a contributor towards the collective, seen and unseen..ripples and seeds that are, effortlessly and authentically shared.
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Old 16-06-2024, 02:35 AM
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Hello JustBe and all.

Further to # 10.

If we do choose to perceive existence as being one inevitably interconnected inclusive interdependent process---and follow on through that perception to then choose to play our part in that process in a manner as harmonious with that perception as we are able---given the limitations of our knowledge and circumstances--we may then be enabled to realise that not only are we "ourselves" inevitably interconnected etc. in the oneness of the process of existence, but are "ourselves" actually no more --nor less-- than manifestations constructed by process and existing as a result of process.

The perception of "ourselves" as described above enables the ability to use "ourselves" as the viewing platform to which we have access rather than considering "ourselves" to be the only manifestations constructed by process and existing as a result of process.

In so doing this also enables the opening of a door to the ability to realise that not only are we inevitably connected with "all which is", but also enables the ability for "all which is" to connect with "ourselves".

We might choose to characterise such connection as being fulfillment.

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Old 16-06-2024, 09:22 AM
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It's worth highlighting that if we feel we are connected, this also implies we are separate. If I say I am connected to the whole, there is still a small sense that I am a separate individual, albeit linked to the whole. From the Non Dual perspective we go a step further and say truly I'm not separate from the whole, there is only one indivisible whole and I am that.

In this understanding blame falls away, as there are no others. The One may appear to be divided against itself, but it is an amazing play of separation.
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It's worth highlighting that if we feel we are connected, this also implies we are separate. If I say I am connected to the whole, there is still a small sense that I am a separate individual, albeit linked to the whole. From the Non Dual perspective we go a step further and say truly I'm not separate from the whole, there is only one indivisible whole and I am that.

In this understanding blame falls away, as there are no others. The One may appear to be divided against itself, but it is an amazing play of separation.
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Hello Goldcup7 and all.

If in choosing to engage in the process of choosing to perceive existence as one whole inevitably interconnected inclusive interdependent process we find that making this choice helps us to experience the connection and possibly then also prompts us to choose to modify/regulate our own behaviour to be harmonious with the insight which that experience may prove to provide.,---is our engagement in this process pointless if we are ignorant concerning notions/opinions regarding duality/non duality?

Lots of "ifs" and questions. --but perhaps grounded and accessible.

The wisdom of words kneel before loving deeds,---so I believe.

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Sorry about the double posts above. It glitched on me.

Weareunity, you'll need to break that down for me a little. Not sure what the question is. Do you mean: if we choose to see the world as one, and modify our behaviour in accordance with that view, is this pointless if we don't understand non duality?
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It's worth highlighting that if we feel we are connected, this also implies we are separate. If I say I am connected to the whole, there is still a small sense that I am a separate individual, albeit linked to the whole. The One may appear to be divided against itself, but it is an amazing play of separation.


Feeling connected as I perceive myself is simply feeling connected to myself as a whole. For those like myself who didn’t or don’t understand ( through perceived separation) they are the whole, feel that deeply, initially in process. ( most still in perceived separation still feel that way) doesn’t necessarily mean, there is a view of separation, but more connected to the whole from within as itself.

As I see your view you’re perceiving it as separation but I don’t.

If you’re someone who’s always perceived himself as the whole, that’s really rare, but my experience of so many is that at the core they don’t feel that way. So feeling is what embodies it more complete. Just knowing doesn’t mean one feels it as an embodiment. So the feeling level simply means it no longer feels seperate.
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