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21-04-2024, 06:22 PM
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Hello Klaatu24
No need to apologize for not writing or how much you write. I get the same when it comes to writing/talking about this part of my life. Sometimes I feel blocked from writing also. When I’m around people my signal to not talk is an alka-seltzer sensation in my elbows.
That’s interesting about the gizmo thingy and good they didn’t completely heal it. I often wonder about how they can heal us so quickly. One time I was sitting in a room that was all wood floors and walls. Had the feeling I was in an old Western town, like on Gunsmoke. I was sitting in a chair with other people in a circle. In the middle of the circle is a lamp with a blue substance that gave off a light glow. I was curious about the lamp and stretched my foot out to touch it. It tipped over on my foot. The blue substance was like a gel and covered my foot. I hear someone yell, she tipped it over. Then I am on a gurney being rolled through a hallway with rock walls, like a cave. There are humans that look like medical personnel and military. I had no scaring or sensitivity to my foot.
Ref the UFO conferences, I laughed when you said, (as long as they're not coo-coo about it)! The first conference I attended; I went to the shopping area first. The first person I see is wearing a pyramid thing on their head and someone else a tinfoil hat. Some of them were obviously not Experiencers and was there to just sell merchandise. I didn’t outright laugh at people because I’m nice that way. Yes, I was laughing in my head.
The Edgar Cayce workshops sounds interesting. Do you find there is a difference on what you can see when not in-person vs in-person with someone?
About them seeing the ET’s, I think most people have a limit to what they can handle. Sometimes I think people are okay with the “possibility” of ET life in the universe. But when they “see” them, that makes it all too real.
Yes, I think people are surprised to learn the ET’s have personalities. And they are surprised about the telepathy. I’ve heard people say they think telepathy is an invasion of privacy. I don’t feel that way at all. I love it because there is no hiding what you are feeling.
Thank you for sharing about your NDE, I enjoyed reading about it. Seems like our subconscious is always working even during an NDE, like knowing your friend would need you.
MIB or whoever they are: I got used to them being around. Like, I would wave at them or say things on the phone like, hey how’s the weather where you are. One time I was talking with a fellow experiencer about a date I’d been on and how I didn’t think he would be okay with the ET part of my life. I then said, hello MIB, who’s listening right now, are you single? There was a very loud CLICK on the line. My friend and I both laughed so much.
Maybe military: This one I’m not sure what organization he works/worked with. Sometimes I would go to remote viewing sessions. It was always the same, I would be in a room of maybe 6 people, and we would be sitting in chairs. We’d be facing a wall and when the wall faded away, one of the men would ask, what do you see. We would describe what we are seeing. It was just a few times and each time it was the same two men there working with the group. During this time, once when I was in traffic, I look to my right and see a man driving a black SUV. He is looking forward, but I have the feeling he knows I’m looking. Then it dawns on me, he looks like one of the remote viewing instructors. As soon as that thought went through my mind, he smiled.
Not sure who these were: One time I lived in San Antonio, TX. There is a small park near Fort Sam, and I would walk there sometimes. I mentioned to someone that I walk there and it’s so nice. She said, I heard there is an underground facility under the park and it’s spy people. Well, I decided to put it to the test. There is a part of the walking path that is covered with trees and shrubs. One time when no one else was on the path, I started saying; Hey spy people, I can see you in the bunker under this park, I can hear you, I know you all are there. I said that all along the path. When I left the park about 30 minutes later, a black SUV pulled out behind me, from Fort Sam. My Spirit immediately noticed it and knew they were following me. There are two men in the front and a woman in back leaning forward between the two seats. They are all dressed in business casual, not military clothes. They are laser focused on me; I could feel it. After a few blocks, I waved to them behind me and said, I can see you. They immediately made a U-turn. Yes, I laughed and no, I didn’t taunt them again at the park. ![Biggrin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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24-04-2024, 10:31 AM
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When I’m around people my signal to not talk is an alka-seltzer sensation in my elbows.
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That's so cool! Does the alka-seltzer sensation happen automatically, or is there a technique you do beforehand, like asking yourself if it's ok to talk?
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I often wonder about how they can heal us so quickly.
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Yeah, it's like magic! I've heard they're incredible masters with DNA.
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The first person I see is wearing a pyramid thing on their head and someone else a tinfoil hat. Some of them were obviously not Experiencers and was there to just sell merchandise.
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I've heard of people wearing tinfoil hats at conventions. Seems funny and cute, but sooooo far from reality. Must admit though, I'd probably go see what they were selling. The conventions I've gone to have had serious speakers with lots of evidence, which is really awesome.
One of the coolest things was a boy who'd sent in a video to a convention speaker. The boy had set up two video cameras to view the sky from his house: one regular camera, and an infra-red camera. He angled the cameras so they recorded the exact same view. The video divided the screen in half; one camera on the left side, the other on the right.
The video from the regular camera showed the sky, some clouds and the tops of other houses. The infra-red showed the exact same scene only a UFO was in the sky.
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Do you find there is a difference on what you can see when not in-person vs in-person with someone?
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Wow, yeah! When alone, I'm not as nervous, so I can relax. I don't try to get information from people at conventions though. But if there's someone who's transitioned to the other side who I love, like a movie star, I'll send out that deep love and say things from the heart. Usually that night, or in a few nights, I'll get a visitation.
I've contacted family members that way too who have transitioned -- just feel that deep, deep love and think of them, and talk to them from your heart. It may not happen right away, but usually in a few days something happens, like a synchronicity that automatically reminds you of them, or a visit in some way or another.
Speakers at conventions say the more you practice, the easier it'll get.
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About them seeing the ET’s, I think most people have a limit to what they can handle.
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Definitely! When someone tells me they're interested in UFOs, I'll start talking. Not the heavy duty stuff, but lighter stuff. There usually comes a point where their face will start looking hard, like they don't believe me -- that's my cue to stop and switch the conversation.
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Seems like our subconscious is always working even during an NDE, like knowing your friend would need you.
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Oops -- wasn't exactly clear about that. Sorry. Somehow I learned on the other side about the friend needing help, it wasn't the subconscious.
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MIB or whoever they are: I got used to them being around. Like, I would wave at them or say things on the phone like, hey how’s the weather where you are. One time I was talking with a fellow experiencer about a date I’d been on and how I didn’t think he would be okay with the ET part of my life. I then said, hello MIB, who’s listening right now, are you single? There was a very loud CLICK on the line. My friend and I both laughed so much.
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Hey, did your date work out -- is he ok with ETs? That's funny, and spooky at the same time, about the MIB listening in on your conversation.
I have a very vague, split-second image of two of them. But I don't know if that's my imagination or not. But there was a really intense, almost angry feeling coming from them. Speakers have said that some (or all?) MIB are actually ETs. I don't know.
Amazing you can do remote viewing! Makes you wonder about the instructor. How did you find out about the remote viewing sessions?
Regarding the SUV -- just curious -- when your "Spirit immediately noticed it," how did you sense this? I'm always looking for different ways to develop psychic senses. Plus, I'd be scared to death if I talked in the park toward spy people and then people followed me. You're really brave!
With all your experiences, have you contacted any UFO places, like MUFON or other places that look into ETs and UFOs? I haven't. I don't think they'd believe me.
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28-04-2024, 10:18 PM
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Hello again
Alka-Seltzer sensation: It just happens, I don’t do anything to facilitate it. The first time it happened was during regressive hypnosis with Constance Clear. I was being filmed and I think that is what did it. Like it was okay for me to talk about, but not for it to be filmed. I had to stop because the sensation got so strong, it hurt. And I burned out their mic battery.
Streetlights: Sometimes streetlights would go out when I passed by. Once when I was riding in the car with Constance at night I told her about the streetlights. I then said, see that big billboard ahead, watch the lights go out when we drive past. Yep, they went out. She started laughing and we both laughed. I mean, what else can you say, it is what it is.
Conventions: Have you ever been to the “Contact in the Desert” convention? I was just now looking at it online. The lineup of speakers looks interesting. One of my favorites, George Knapp will be there. Would love to attend one day, when I have the $ to go.
Video: I would love to see the video you mentioned. The one taken by the boy with two cameras. Would you know if its online anywhere? One time during the day, I saw one that was huge. I call it the mall ship. No one else saw it though. Make me wonder why some can see and others don’t.
Date: No, the date did not work out. I gave up trying to date because I always found myself thinking about the ET’s and how would I explain that to someone.
Ex-husband: Around the time I was remembering everything, his mom called saying she is cleaning out the garage and wants him to a go pickup a box with his name on it. She said it looks like high school stuff. He said to throw it out and I said no, I want it for when we have children. They might find their Dad’s high school items fun to look through. When we arrived home with the box, I asked to open it and he said sure. Sitting right on top in plain view was the book about Betty and Barney Hill. I was blown away, speechless, because he had been telling me for months that the ET thing was all in my head. I held the book up and said, oh look a book about UFOs and Alien abduction. He claimed he never remembered reading the book and doesn’t know how it got in the box. Years later he had a daughter with another woman. He came over to visit me when his daughter was, I think 5. He walked in with a piece of paper in his hand. He then said, look at this and I see a grey alien face that his daughter drew. He goes on to say, you need to tell them to leave my daughter alone. I just sighed and told him, you know that you are an Experiencer also, so you tell them. Our story is a long one, so won’t go into it now.
Remote viewing: The remote viewing/walk-about happened on multiple occasions, and it was after going to sleep. Some were remote viewing and others were walk-about where I felt like I was there. Never ET’s around, only humans. The remote viewing ones; 1 of WA DC, 2 of Middle East, 1 of London. Walk-about; some in USA, 1 in Europe, 2 in Russia, 1 in London & 1 a country I don’t remember the name. I would LOVE to understand one day, how it happens. I would be in what I call reporter mode for both remote viewing and walk-about, never any emotion, only need to remember what I was hearing/seeing/feeling. On some walk-abouts we would gather at end of night in a place that reminded me of a country farmhouse kitchen. We never talked to each other about what we saw. We would be debriefed alone and then leave.
Walkabout verified: One time I went on walk-about to NASA. I was with a group and we were there to help with a systems problem on one of their rockets. I distinctly remember smelling a chemical burning outside. A couple days later I was speaking with someone from that area, telling her about my walk-about. She said, oh yes there was refinery explosion near NASA, that’s what you were smelling. I looked it up just to be sure and found it online.
SUV following me: My Spirit picking up on the people in the SUV was automatic. My Spirit does that sometimes and can pick up on something I need to know. I never feel any fear when I’ve been under surveillance. Maybe it’s because I know they are not allowed to harm me. The last one I saw, was a few years ago. I parked my car at a strip mall, going to a Subway. As soon and I turned off the car, I looked toward my right and thought, hummm he’s not hiding very well. I saw a young guy look at me and he backed up behind a pillar. I laughed and got out my car. He knew I spotted him so he walked out, toward the Subway right behind me. I got in line to order and then feel a very light touch on my side. I turned around smiling, he was almost laughing, and he said, what would you recommend here? I looked at the menu on the wall and mentioned a few items, turned back to him and he was gone. He was late 20’s, blonde short hair, white shirt, black pants, black shoes and felt military.
UFO groups:
- Early 1990’s, I saw the movie “The Intruders” and it activated memories.
- I went to the one bookstore in my area looking for anything on the subject. There on the shelf was only one copy of John Mack’s book, Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens. I grabbed it in a hurry because I didn’t want anyone to know what I was buying. I remember the worker looked at the book when she rang me up and said, hum I don’t remember putting this book out and it’s the only one. I just smiled and said, oh okay and I quickly left the store.
- After reading the book all the memories started flooding in, so contacted John Mack for help. I was given a list of therapists in my area that worked with ET abductees. The closest to me was a three hour drive away. I didn’t care how far I had to drive; I was making an appointment.
- Met with Constance Clear in San Antonio, TX.
- At the same time other Experiences were contacting Constance. She met with us all and then formed a group so we would meet up together.
- She wrote a book about us, Reaching for Reality.
MUFON: During those years, Mufon was active in the area. I knew Experiencers that had tried going to MUFON and they were dismissed and told to come back when they have evidence. A few years ago, I tried to contact MUFON to see if anything changed and I never heard back from them.
What about you, have you been involved with UFO groups and how was your experience with them?
How has it been for you and relationships?
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28-04-2024, 11:50 PM
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03-05-2024, 08:17 AM
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No problem about typos. Some of mine turn out funny.
Thanks for the info about the alka-seltzer sensation. Amazing!
I've heard energy workers make streetlights go out sometimes when they pass by. Sometimes that's happened to me when I'm really upset over something, but I don't know that it's going to happen beforehand. That's so cool you know about it beforehand.
No, I've never heard of the "Contact in the Desert" convention. Looks like a great line up of speakers! It's pricey, but it does last 5 days at least. (Though it's out of my price range.) They do have different types of streaming for lower prices though -- technology's great!
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Video: I would love to see the video you mentioned. The one taken by the boy with two cameras.
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Drats -- couldn't find it online. I didn't have too much time on this public computer to search though. Jaime Maussan showed it at the "X-Conference" years ago. He did have it on a DVD, but I forgot what the DVD's called. The "X-Conference" was a yearly convention from around 2004-2010, given by Stephen Bassett. They even had their speakers talk at the National Press Club in Washington DC after some (or all?) of the conferences.
Unfortunately, years ago, I saw the "X-Conference" webpage was taken down (with all their archives). If anyone can find it online, could you please give the url? I'd love to see it again since it lists all their speakers, speaker webpages, etc.
Online I saw Jaime Maussan has a lot of DVDs available (maybe even streaming?). The "two cameras" video might be on one of them.
Another of Jaime's videos showed a large white worm or tube-looking thing in the sky, which he called a dragon (or other people called a dragon?). The white tube thing in the sky changed shapes slowly -- then a bunch of small spaceships started pouring out of one end and flew away! Like the long white tube thing was a spaceship transport or something. This also might be on one of his videos/DVD/streaming. Wish I knew which one!
Doing a google search for Jaime and Steven Greer, there were a lot of people disclaiming them and/or their many videos. Makes me so mad! Even if one video's debunked, it doesn't mean all of them are fake. Things seem so hit-or-miss with UFO videos. When I see ETs at conferences with the speakers (usually they stand next to the conference room walls), that's when I know the speakers are legitimate.
Your "mall ship" sounds awesome! I just remember a flash of a large, silver looking panel almost right next to me -- which might be my imagination. You know, many times I'd throw up when the ETs brought me back home -- I vaguely remember throwing up. But around 2 times I remember two grays standing next to me on both sides in the bathroom after I'd thrown up. I think they were making sure I was ok. Never thought of this before, but maybe I threw up from radiation from their ships? I don't know. Just a thought.
I'm so sorry you gave up trying to date because of the ET's. I didn't really think too much about that while dating. But one time I woke up and there were a bunch of ET's near the ceiling, talking English (through telepathy). They all had high-pitched voices and were really happy someone was sleeping next to me, and they were describing to each other what our physical positions were. Like saying, her leg is bent this way, her elbow is straight here, his head's turned this way, his knees are here, etc. It was as if they'd never seen two people just sleeping in bed and were learning from it. It seemed a bit silly, but was so much fun listening to them, because they were so excited to learn what our body positions were. The guy I was with seemed to sleep right through the whole thing. The next day, I didn't mention it to him because I thought he'd think I was crazy. Maybe I should have said something. Maybe the ETs had been there because he gets visited by them too. I don't know.
That's so cool about seeing the book about Betty and Barney Hill! And your ex-husband being an experiencer too, and his daughter drawing an ET! I've read that ETs follow family lines often. I remember seeing the movie "The Interrupted Journey" (I think that's the name), with James Earl Jones playing Barney Hill. It was so great, and comforting, and scary, to see the abductions. And fell in love with James' voice.
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Remote viewing: The remote viewing/walk-about happened on multiple occasions, and it was after going to sleep...
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Wow! A speaker at the X-Conference mentioned this when I was talking with her after the conference. She spoke about similar things happening during the night. She didn't like it though. Gosh, makes a person wonder what's going on.
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SUV following me: My Spirit picking up on the people in the SUV was automatic. My Spirit does that sometimes and can pick up on something I need to know. I never feel any fear when I’ve been under surveillance. Maybe it’s because I know they are not allowed to harm me.
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You're so intuitive about your spirit picking up on people! This probably sounds naive, but all this surveillance seems like a waste of time for the people doing the surveilling. I wonder why they're doing it?
How wonderful John Mack's book lead you to meeting Constance! Synchronicities are so much fun! And to be in her book too!
That's too bad about MUFON wanting evidence. But it makes sense too, they probably get tons of people contacting them and they don't know if people are telling the truth or not.
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Decades ago I didn't want to contact any UFO groups, because back then, the few books I could find were more about believing or disbelieving the existence of spaceships. So, I really didn't think they'd believe that I'd been abducted since before I could walk, or later, when I was older that an ET kissed me. So, back then I decided not to contact any UFO groups.
I was more into metaphysical things, like trying to contact angels and ETs, which I could do most of the time, by myself. But conventions were fun to attend, mostly metaphysical ones. Sometimes I change my mind and think of joining a UFO group, but just never follow through. Maybe it's in the future, who knows?
The ET's kiss was really, really sweet! I was sitting on one of the exam tables with my lower legs hanging over the side. He was brave enough to rest his hand on my right palm, so I could look at it. ETs were usually so busy and clinical that they rarely did anything I asked for. I have a vague feeling that I asked to see his hand (but I don't specifically remember that). His fingers were more tubular than I thought -- couldn't see any knuckles. I stroked his fingers lightly and thought, "This hand has done things I can't even dream about." He put his lips on mine for a split second. Just a short, sweet kiss. However, I ruined it. I got so thrilled emotionally that he backed away a few inches, watching my eyes. He seemed a little scared. I kept saying things like "You really wanted to kiss me?! I can't believe you kissed me!!" My thrilled-ness was too much for him and he backed away a few more inches, still looking into my eyes. He still seemed a little scared. Usually you can tell what they're feeling from the telepathy that seems to come from their eyes, but I couldn't tell with him after the kiss. That's all I remember.
There were a few times during abductions when I'd get thrilled with something the ETs did and they'd back away from me, like they were nervous to be so close. It's like the emotion was too strong for them, or I had too much energy built up inside me or something. I don't know what it is that makes them back up a little. But at least I still have that beautiful memory, even though I ruined it from being thrilled. Hopefully someday I'll see him again and apologize.
Funny how much energy I have when I'm on their ships. Normally, at home, I don't have that much energy.
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03-05-2024, 09:30 AM
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Found videos of the 2 cameras: 1 regular camera and an infrared camera showing the same scene but with a UFO. Both videos shows each camera's recording first, then they use the split screen and show both cameras side by side.
Not sure if I can put a link here or not, but if you go to Youtube.com and search for:
jaime maussan infra red
One video which has a better image, titled: UFO - Evidence - Wow Incredible Real - Mexico - Jaime Maussan...
Second video, image isn't as good, titled: UFO! Infrared + normal camera Mexico Jaime Maussan
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For the videos in the above post, forgot to say the images were much clearer when Jaime showed them at the X Conference.
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10-05-2024, 03:44 AM
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Oops -- checked out the videos (above) and the first one has a different video on there now!
The second one was hard to search for. If you have trouble, please try:
youtube.com/watch?v=TFzXzDLaTZU
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Search Youtube for: Fabio Pandich UFO InfraRed+Normal camera Mexico Jaime Maussan rm
That's Jaime's voice in the video.
Fabio has some other cool UFO videos, if you search Youtube for:
Fabio Pandich
While re-watching the infrared video, I guess someone can say they just added a sphere-like UFO to the video. I'll just leave it up to whoever watches it, as to whether they believe it or not.
Still trying to locate a video of Jaime's white worm-like video that changed shapes and had UFO's pouring out of one end.
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