Esoteric Whisperings

[lemex]

Originally Posted by zorkchop

We feel we can ... manipulate how they view and believe … hence … karmic implications are set in motion that will be balanced …

Group karma is a good example of this, society an example. Karma imo cannot be manipulated and I do think we can see karma (certainly the manipulation). I think free-will and karma go hand in hand.

[zorkchop]

6-14-24 …

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lemex … yes … karma is behind everything we do. In a sense … free will is the cause … and “karma” is the effect.

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As stated in other posts … sometimes quite subtly … consciousness is somewhat akin to Existence … although there would be some major facets to include if a distinction were to be made. In any event … consciousness as a word is quite correct when coming to terms with the Whole of LIFE. Consciousness is everything … save for some major facets of Divine Spirit and for the Core Creator God ITSELF. The Pure God Worlds make up the foundations … the building blocks … the focal points if you will … formless … abstract … but the absolute substance and continuance of *all* below IT’s level.

In the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … EVERY-thing has been designed for the completeness of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds themselves. In other words … EVERY-thing is available to all within these Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … every nuance … every stance … every need … every restraint … every hardship … every joy. They are all available … to all … here.

So … what determines the “differences” for the individual?

Consciousness is a whole … small ‘ w ‘ … meaning including all variations of experiences to be lived here. There is an entire “level” of consciousness beyond the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds.

Within consciousness is awareness … of what is the individual aware … and by that I mean … simply watchful enough to know that any experience is possible … whether you are partaking in the experience yourself or not. In other words … if you are poor … you are aware there are those that are rich … if you are incapable … you know there are those that are capable … etc x forever.

So … you are “aware” of something … and decide to focus on a speak of your choice … and “make it real” for your own experience. YoU … give it life. YoU … give it distinction, focus on, and enhance that facet of Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds existence and give it sustenance by your focus … and feeling … and identification to self.

It may take a while … especially in the physical worlds where manifestation is often slow … but it *will*become yours … become “you” … and you will live it for the duration that you give it value.

Obviously … this works both ways … of bringing both positive and negative experiences to you. Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Spirit does not know the difference. It merely provides nourishment and activity to bring it about to and within the individual that focuses the experience into manifestation. It is the individual that determines positivity or negativity.

As with all things in the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … there is action and reaction … given various names throughout history and by various philosophies and studies. Cause and effect … action and reaction … the focus / identification / intent of the individual being the cause. What happens then is rarely … if ever … up to you. Your action will bring about a reaction … and throughout the eons … you have set a LOT of experiences into motion that didn’t go well for you. There are WaY too many of these to balance in one lifetime … hence … reincarnation. And with hundreds of thousands of lived lifetimes … a *very* conservative number … everyone carries a LoT of baggage.

And so … the “differences” in all those around us.

Everyone has the same power … the ability to see and hear … to choose to focus “here or there” … or capable / incapable … and we live the results … perhaps mysteriously or unknowingly … but LIFE … being “neutral” and “fair” without favoritism … simply carries out the balance for each and all according to the causes / actions of each individual. There is no coincidence … some “reactions” or “effects” are just being balanced in this lifetime that were set in motion in the past … however long ago that was.

More tomorrow.

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[zorkchop]

6-15-24 …

Saturday tidbits … just short tidbits that can be used in any number of life interpretations … and yes … I know it’s long … such is the way sometimes …

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A primary principle … it’s *not* what happens to you that counts … it’s how you respond / react to / deal with it.

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Another primary principle … Soul Itself is not mind … and mind is not Soul Itself.

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Your night dreams are Soul’s / your adventures in the other worlds / dimensions / planes. The fact that mainstream science has not caught up with that yet is of little concern to the ardent spiritual student. Your night dreams are every bit as much viable “occurrences” on the level they are proceeding … as any / all physical episodes are lesson-carrying experiences .

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Another “term” or “definition” for Soul Itself is ‘tuza’ … and Soul Itself is the living “I AM” principle … since It ( Soul ) is the specifier … the designator … the itemized designer in the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … set in motion by Soul Itself believing that “I AM … this or that” … or … “It must be this way or that.” Soul … focuses Lower Worlds Spirit … into the specifics.

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There will always be “hardships” … from slight to overwhelming … from annoying to crumbling … from minor tripping points to devastating situations and conditions. If you have found yourself in a 50-50 balance … you are fortunate.

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One of the great foundational principles that all deal with … on all levels … although it works a bit differently on / in the Pure God Worlds … the principle of … As above So below. Very generic, generalized example … the emotions ( above ) govern the physical body ( below ) … the habit and patterns of the causal plane ( above ) govern the emotions ( below ) … the mental thoughts ( above ) govern the habits and patterns ( below ) … the etheric symbol / trigger / index picture in the etheric plane ( above ) tends to set off the mental thoughts ( below ) … etc. I’ll leave off here.

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One of the great discoveries you will eventually make is learning the tricks / stances the mind will use to slow down the learning of and for advancement. Habit is insanely difficult to wrestle with. This has often led to the desire to “kill off” patterns / habits / beliefs … right down to the “killing off” of identity … and making the wrestling match between Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds mental / emotional beliefs verses Soul Itself much more difficult.

What thoughts are the forerunner of all your issues?

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You know where you are by what is around you … and you do not find what is around you with your physical eyes. “if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.”

It does no good to tell yourself why you are physically consciously awake and are happy … when you push away lessons. Inwardly … it is known by Divine Spirit that you are insincere. You are deep in the forest bumping into the trees … and you don’t mind. You may present yourself as being enlightened … you may fool yourself but you do not fool Divine Spirit. Your interpretations of what happens to you is false

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The casual sorting through mountains of information does not lead to discernment.

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Do you want to learn … or do you want to compete?

Do you want to find validating resonance with where you are … or do you want to grow into the greater Whole?

Do you want to demand that your choices are correct … or do you want to learn if they are?

Do you want to find comfort in the conventional … or growth in the independent thinking?

Complacency / passivity … and all its little varieties … ( stopping the mind / drifting ) … is like a giant bog of quicksand … you just sink into it and you don’t have to try anything … you just drift.

When you begin to identify the trees in your surrounding forest … as what resonates with you … you know you are then a part of the additional … and you have many more future lifetimes nudging you to grow with the group and wait for the group to discover … whatever.

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So much of the human condition is a series of red flags to which we pay no attention … or … bury them so deeply that we do not have to consider them anymore … and we demand we are self-righteously absolutely correct … without clarifying.

Even when told this … we dismiss it.

Since the human condition is thoroughly capable of this perspective … it can absolutely go ANY-where … and feel *totally* justified in doing so. It is WE … that pays for this.

You unknowingly … or unintentionally … designed your life to be what it is today … into where you are right now … now you have to go in and designed your way out of it.

Since everything is directed in these Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … either You direct it … or someone else does.

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It should be no secret that *giving* is a great service to self … to others … and to LIFE.

A great aspect of giving … is living the application of what you have learned. Discover it … acknowledge / realize it … apply it to your life … which is an aspect of giving back to life.

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From all the Laws I have mentioned for the last few posts … it could be said … and rightfully so … that the entire path is designed for YoU to discover and adhere to … the Laws of Life … at whatever level you are working … and even if you dismiss this concept … it’s what you are doing anyway.

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Impressions we have brought with us from the past … pulses perhaps … habits and patterns are another way to view it … stored away in the subconscious … if they have been of fear, worry, confusion, incapability, anxiety … if they have been despondent, negative, doubtful … what else would you expect your life to be if it is made from these factors?

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The devil does not come in gigantic form with pitchfork and smoke. It comes by way of the common man to be used against others. One individual is used against another … each individual having a lesson to learn … most probably from different approaches and directions. People can be manipulated and used against others just in common everyday scenarios. The Negative Forces does this all the time. Make life difficult for you … or to show you an aspect of yourself … that you have refused to see before. They will send that troubling individual or event or situation … the devil … into our life … to find out how will handle / deal with it … what you will make out of it.

More tomorrow.

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[zorkchop]

6-16-24 …

Sunday tidbits …

Mark Twain once said … “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.”

How many times have you read … and maybe not that often … but I’m reading it again right now … it’s not what you don’t know … but what you know to be true … but isn’t.

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The words “I AM … “ voiced by the individual … do *not* mean … I simply exist. There is more to it.

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Ego doesn’t like someone knowing what they do not.

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The road less traveled is with each unfamiliar step.

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The power of “thought” is used on all levels of Existence. *Thought* is not the culprit. What “thought” is focused on … and how thought is used … is the director and orchestrator. So many people like to blame ego … but ego is what YoU train it to be. Reincarnation might give it an “Unknown” quality … but YoU reacted to your experiences at the time that gave rise to what you live now. Just because they were learned in a previous life does *not* mean they are any less yours.

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What you are NoW … is what you should be focused on.

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Just as a King has his court that runs the various aspects of the kingdom … or a government does the same … the Core Creator God has IT’s hierarchy that maintain the necessary features or layers of the pure consciousness in the Pure God Worlds and then it all changes when the nettle atom is added to form the atom and give rise to manifestation.

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We are often focused into relationships just so we will encounter opposites … or others ways to perceive … so we can come into contact with those other ways and consider incorporating … or not.

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Wisdom and force and substance is just as present around everyone as is anything else … and it is a matter of practiced focus on how much you are involved with anything … specific or otherwise.This depends on whether you are trying to gain wisdom ( data ) in the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds or gain wisdom ( wise use snd understanding the Whole of Life ) in the Pure God Worlds.

The human experience is a defense-oriented experiment … excuse-making … justifying. To allow yourself to work through this you have to WANT to make these changes. You can get to more or less the same point on any issue and then doesn’t work anymore … you have to try something else … and this is often what pulls us beyond the popular stuff.

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The study of metaphysics begins to acknowledge that there are psychic centers and centers and attributes that are beyond the physical and everyone begins to experiment with what works … the higher teachings gives some clues to this but still stay within the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds …

The True Home of Soul Itself still lies beyond.

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Truth is not how much God can give you. Truth is how much you have earned.

Wisdom is what you do with it.

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So many definitions that we use to understand everyday life … love … bliss … Soul Itself … mind … ecstasy … silence … all of these … mind has defined them to continue your acceptance of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds. They are defined in terms of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds. This is by design. Mind develops the definitions. And again … we do not rebel against them … we recognize them for what they are and begin to step beyond them … slowly. You can destroy or warp mind out if you push too hard here.

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You discover Self-Realization … what mind is as opposed to Soul Itself … and you recognize and begin to live within that distinction … not out of rebellion but out of recognition.

Mind loves to define Self - Realization in a deeper understanding of mind … as a trick.

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Since the brain is only a stereo receiver … it must be trained from each infancy … from the mental beliefs you carry over into each lifetime. These you do not lose … but they are often heavily tweaked because you must revise your own beliefs to fit each current lifetime … and each lifetime is often vastly different … with different family members … in different societies.

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What you believe NOW … *will* change … sometime … somewhere … somehow … for some reason … under varied conditions or circumstances. You can CHOOSE to go there … or wait until LIFE pushes you there.

Mind cannot solve and resolve the understanding of the Whole of Life … because a massive aspect of LIFE is beyond the mental realm … and that is the realm of Soul Itself. We are taught to believe that mind is the answer … when it’s not.

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We are not taught that there is a division within Existence … “Why is it so complicated?” … all we are taught … and all we are taught on where to look to find our answers … are in the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … which keeps you there. Few sets of teachings take you beyond this. Understanding the division is a beginning step of understanding Soul Itself and the place of mind.

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Pleasure … we are always after pleasure and entertainment … and not depth / growth.

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PAY ATTENTION. If something happens out of the ordinary … PAY ATTENTION. If you over-react … pay attention. If you dismiss … pay attention.

If you make a choice or a succession of choices just because you “feel” like it … pay attention.

Pay attention to opportunity. Out of the ordinary.

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You are a focused creative point within LIFE … and you are using that to assist LIFE in IT’s growth and expansion.

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Ask yourself … what is “love” … without sentimental emotion ?

Since the Pure God Worlds and most of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds lie above the astral plane … which is the seat of felt, sentimental, warm or violent emotion … “divine love” would be above the sentimental layer we always put on the word.

What is involved in the thoughts of “glorifying God” ? ( There has been a post on this and I do not want to take away people’s anchors here. ) Or bliss … ecstasy … all of that? That is based on the astral … which keeps one here in the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds.

This … is pleasure.

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Regular post tomorrow.

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[zorkchop]

6-17-24 …

This post is going to be intensely controversial to most. Please feel free to dismiss any and all of what I say here … for those that wish to keep everything “mysterious” and beyond understanding.

I will begin by using the common cellphone as an example. Person A calls up Person B. The words voiced into the phone are sent to Person B’s device. The words received by Person B do not simply magically appear and arrange themselves … the phone of Person B doesn’t just happen to select those specific words out of the air by coincidence or happenstance.

Person B receives those words by an electronically-charged impulse … carrying the words from A to B … through the air. One can label all of this by an electromagnetic pulse / wave / beam / package … sending those words through the air invisibly. ANY-thing that operates in a “wireless” method … does this … computers / televisions / radio programs / automobiles / phones … right down to a wireless doorbell … and more.

My point being … the air around us … or perhaps more comprehensively … the space around us … “outer” space included … is *filled* with words, phrases, concepts, imagery, emotional pulses … and more. It cannot be escaped … and if one gives any validity to this information … it cannot be overlooked or dismissed. We are assaulted at all times by clouds of impulses that are not our own … individually … but is nonetheless the “ocean” we all live in … invisibly. It has been clearly stated … the predominance of the “world” we live in … and resulting experiences … are ruled much more by the invisible.

Thoughts are “things” within the mental worlds … “things” that cannot be seen with physical eyes but are ever=present nonetheless. They cannot be seen on the mental worlds unless one trains oneself to do so.

Following the Law of Harmonics … or frequency … all gathers together by like-attracts-like. Though there are similarities within the “gatherings” or “clouds” of thoughts / emotions … the very small specifics within each and all give rise to an endless number of variations. We *tune into* them … just as we tune into anything … by pattern and habit … via focus and acceptance … whether we are conscious of this or not. LIFE is unconcerned if one … believes.

If and when an individual wishes to simply “open ones mind” … you are laying yourself open to whatever may be “drifting” by … good or bad … right or wrong … positive or negative … beneficial or detrimental. Your choice … your focus … selects the impulses. Some may push in that are not quite ”yours” … close enough but with enough variation to bring a different interpretation by you … and can send you off … anywhere.

Can you stop this?

Yes … with a LOT of practice. It can be stopped for periods of time.

Is that beneficial / the correct thing / the enlightened thing to do?

Marginally.

It does give rise to gaining control over the wandering and unfocused mind … resulting from the lack of discipline that was never known to be important … but becomes increasingly vital. In the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … you cannot escape this … and so … since words … in spite of what many might believe … are the greatest architecture within these worlds … one begins to choose specifically and clearly the “words” one will live by … and will hold to them … bringing all wanderings and tangents back to the foundational words … forming principles to live by … and guiding these principles and concepts to continue to grow more and more into the Whole-ism of consciousness.

This slowly leads to the discovery of a completely different approach to interacting with LIFE … still using words when they are important and necessary … but beginning to interact directly with Divine Spirit … and the discovery of Self as Soul Itself. The approach is as different as night and day … and one learns to live within the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds using the facets or bodies or attributes enveloping Soul Itself and using each “tool” as intended … but devoting more-than-ample time in the Pure God Worlds … where the non-specific dwells … the foundations and focal points that nourish all of Life below … motionless … formless … but filled with light and harmony … as Divine Spirit gives birth to all beneath.

Much of the path lies in allowing yourself to believe … that which is beyond the conventional and acceptable. Eons are spent within the traditional … varying slightly as “time” progresses within the societies and cultures … and moving beyond the accepted is for the bold and courageous only … while allowing all surrounding individuals to live as they choose … without judgement or control.

More tomorrow.

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[zorkchop]

6-18-24

It is a factual statement … that Divine Spirit of the Pure God Worlds looks for those that DO something with the discoveries given to them. Most people do not even use the opportunities given to them … whispered to them … they prefer to stay with the familiar.

When you do indeed apply in different ways … this stands out … to Divine Spirit … or those that oversee such devotion and sincerity to advancement.

Many times … the most difficult steps for advancement comes when one has walked the intellectual areas of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds for many, many lifetimes … and feel “safe” within them … and that is a HARD area to step beyond. SO many lifetimes can be spent debating … bantering … comparing … defining … labeling … discussing … and holding to the the accepted, conventional discoveries of the current state of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds.

If you are considering something that involves the Law of Opposites … male / female … right / wrong … good / bad … duality or non-duality … singularity or duality … then all of these are part of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … of the mental approach … which is absolutely fine if that is where you are and wish to continue there.

On a forum board like this … there are many levels … which can be fabulous for the individual coming up through the levels … but an individual can begin to put together a stance which is slightly beyond and then try to answer a post that involves them to step back into the lower understandings … and keep that preference of approach alive and well within themselves. It is NOT easy to step beyond. You will stay there as long as it fulfills you.

CHOOSE what owns you.

Wrong definitions hang more people up than simple ignorance.

This is not necessarily an either / or scenario … but more of a knowing that one will hold to the higher but try to tie in the lower for this discussion … by knowing where the specific level is and the why of it.

I have often referred to “higher principles” or “foundational principles” … and admittedly this is a very simple and elementary explanation … one begins to realize that “everything comes from something higher” … whether form or concept / principle … everything is put into action from something higher than its base. It follows the basic structure of the “outline” form …

… where one can see options / tangents / variations / lower levels of thought descending ever downward … and if one wishes to gain insight and understanding on where one “is” on the continuum … one must follow the trail upward until they get to the highest level where various understandings “make sense” … but no matter where one is holding … there is always a higher level to uncover … and it is these higher glimpses and realizations … the level or thread that gave rise to “where you are right now” … it is the higher level that you wish to find and this is what leads to advancement … or “enlightenment” … as some might call it.

You can follow the same procedure when dealing with daily issues … and perhaps gain insight as to the “lessons” involved in what is being faced … and later on in unfoldment … begin to uncover the higher principles / laws / stances … whether metaphysical or purely spiritual … finding the common threads that ties all of LIFE together while allowing for the individuality of understanding.

In the example above … so many of the forum topics would be itemized and indented WaY off toe the right … tangent upon tangent … opinion upon opinion … and it takes forever / lifetimes to gain isight into the higher threads that give rise to most any metaphysical understanding and how it all ties together … but that is the design and nature of the path … it is the learning process … no one escapes.

One can find common / golden threads running throughout many of even the mental principles / concepts … and try to hold to the threads … not the analyzed / common / divided specifics or separate definitions.

I have been using “foundational” elements in many of my posts. Maybe I need to explain that.

When I post something … and someone believes a differing stance but is “close” to the overall foundational principle … it should be easier to take that larger principle as a stance. There isn’t much difference … although to many … the difference would be enough to hold to the original and not move forward.

Why continue to hold to the former / lower level when the greater principle would not be a cause for loss … and wold do just as well … and lead to advancement. Why push the higher away … the threatening away … just because it is worded differently.

There IS a common element that you can find and hold to.

More tomorrow.

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[zorkchop]

6-19-24 …

There is an unfamiliar freedom, liberty, and knowingness … uncovering just what these words / phrases actually mean … what true “BE-ingness” is … that is NOT known in the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds but there is plenty of discussion about what it should / could be. Until you get beyond the levels of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … you will not have the personal experience to draw such distinctions. The mind will try to convince … and this too … is part of the design … to divide out those that are sincere in going beyond … and are willing to take the risks to do so.

One does this by earning their right to be taken beyond … by someone who has been there … you will then discover the “why” of the design of this … you will understand what consciousness is … how “it” comes to be what “it” is as experienced by the individual … and can be … and why there is so much struggle to put the pieces into place while immersed in the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … and it is NOT done by declaration … command … demand or claim … it all comes together only *after* one lifts themselves above the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds. It is done by earning the right to be taken there … through your own efforts … and there *will* be viable, recognizable signposts … landmarks … experiences … that will prove to you that it is real and valid. Someone can show you the distinctions so you can recognize them.

It is the learning of these distinctions that lifts one into the Pure God Worlds … through self-effort and sincerity and devotion. You will then clearly see that what the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds claim as truth(s) are what they are … for a reason … a necessary reason … and you will learn their limitations … and be able to use each tool / approach as necessary … for what you are then to live within as an overall viewpoint or understanding.

To set the old aside and gingerly step into the new … is never easy … and often not quite clear. That’s when having someone who has done it before … comes in handy … and the nudges and whisperings come mostly by feeling … by instinct … by sensing … and NOT by words. If you do not take the steps … you will not be able to make those distinctions … although you may declare that you have already done so. This too … is a test … is a weeding-out process.

Authentic Masters can be … and are … to be found … by application and effort … sincerity and devotion … by courage.

Yes … there are those that are called “masters” that have “mastered” the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds. Authentic Masters are beyond them … far beyond.

When you try to go beyond … your mind will whisper … or even yell … “Don’t do that … don’t go there … no - that’s not that way to go about it … I like the definition/ understanding I’ve been using for a while … Guru XYZ says it’s this and not that and I like that one better … it’s familiar … I resonate with it … you’re going about it the wrong way … that’s dangerous … don’t do it … I’ve never heard of that one before so no … don’t try it” … etc … and it allows you to stay there … which … if that’s what you want … that is absolutely fabulous.

Your mind will tell you this … and more.

Many times you will begin to discover … where your mind says “No” … Soul Itself says “Yes.”

You will find this only if and when you take these experimental, advancing steps. You take the risk. Eventually you use the discipline to set mind aside and venture on as Soul Itself … and you learn the distinctions … for Soul Itself uses a distinctly … decidedly different approach when interacting with LIFE / Divine Spirit.

You need to give it some time to develop … and keep going into it … watching … listening … testing … seeing what’s “there” … how it fits … does it fit … defining the tools … understanding the “why” of each stance … each position … the purpose and intent of both … the “use” of both … and carry on from there. Only when you step away / above the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds will you see this. Then you realize that trying top “set aside” the mental approach … trying to silence it or kill it off … dismiss it … that is *not* the way to understand the Whole … and the why of it … the design of it … of Existence.

You then begin to use both approaches as intended … applied correctly … living in both worlds. You will watch the struggles of those trying to define what mind cannot define … and understand / experience what mind cannot perceive … and you will not negate or bad-mouth the mind … but understand it as the tool that it is.

An authentic Master will make sure you understand the distinctions. You will not resent or be bitter against the mind … be dismissive of it … but will understand it and continue to use mind when and if necessary.

To try and define consciousness is like a fish trying to define water. What good does it do? Go to the areas of water that best suit you. An authentic Master will help you discover, see, and live within those areas and perspectives. The value of working under and authentic Master is incalculable.

More tomorrow.

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