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25-11-2016, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by relinquish
Any given 'particular thing' (for example, a 'tree') is always in a constant state of change, which is to say that 'the tree' is in fact a 'process' rather than a 'thing'.
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The tree is a process and a tree too, that was my dispute i think. It is not either, or but both.
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25-11-2016, 06:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Mc
The tree is a process and a tree too, that was my dispute i think. It is not either, or but both.
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'Tree' is only a concept. It is a name for a particular 'part' of the universal process, but neither this nor any other part of the process has any actual name in Reality, and the parts are not at all disconnected in the way the names assigned to them make them seem to be.
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26-11-2016, 01:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by relinquish
'Tree' is only a concept. It is a name for a particular 'part' of the universal process, but neither this nor any other part of the process has any actual name in Reality, and the parts are not at all disconnected in the way the names assigned to them make them seem to be.
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Very daoist of you
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10-01-2017, 07:22 AM
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There can be no argument against your description, relinquish. It is truly the only way it ever could be.
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20-01-2017, 01:22 PM
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Newbie ;)
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Structure >Change VE< Structure
Our finite, occupied space Universe/ UniVerse is coherent whole because gravity's ( ) effect on all particles.. Possibly dark energy )( connects all also.
Only the animal kingdom have nerve endings. The other 4 or 5 do not have nerve endings.
The macro-infinite, non-occupied space is irrelevant, for the most part, to our finite occupied space Universe, humans and biological life.
The primary duality is occupied space and non-occupied space ergo the term "U"niverse is used to include both. These both exist eternally.
However, there is a third aspect/attribute that is significant and critically important to humans, that is access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts ergo we slant the " U" in " U"niverse.
Now we have a trinity and two steps away from any concept of a single-only aspect of " U"niverse
Here is the heirarchy:
1} " U"niverse all inclusive conceptual whole set,
......1a} metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept,
----------line-of-demarcation--------------------------------------------
.......1b} macro-infinite,non-occupied space,
.......1c} finite, occupied space Universe aka Uni- Verse
Macro-infinite non=occupied space does not change, except in relationship to our finite, occupied space Universe that may expand-contract, torque, spin, inside-out or whatever.
The asymmetrical 4-fold, Vector Equlibrium is representative of change aka transformation
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synerg...igs/f6008.html
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synerg...igs/f6108.html
The symmetrical, 5-fold icosa{20}hedron is representative of structure ie structural stablitiy.
r6
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synerg...gs/f5730a.html
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20-01-2017, 05:11 PM
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Can't think of anything useful to add, so I'll just say nice post, relinquish
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squatchit
Once, during a dream, I had a telephone call with Life Itself.
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Don't happen to have a transcript to hand, do you?
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26-01-2017, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Mc
The tree is a process and a tree too, that was my dispute i think. It is not either, or but both.
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Maybe all that can be said about a "tree" is that something appears to be TREEING. Life (or It) seems to be "treeing" and "typing" and "sunning" and "eating", etc.
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26-01-2017, 03:32 PM
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Maybe all that can be said about a "tree" is that something appears to be TREEING. Life (or It) seems to be "treeing" and "typing" and "sunning" and "eating", etc. [/
What about toasting ? :Like Toasting bread ? Guess that's included
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26-01-2017, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Mc
What about toasting ? :Like Toasting bread ? Guess that's included
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Toasting bread happens. Trees happen. Life happens. It's all just happening. What a show!
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26-01-2017, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jimrich
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True, take it easy.
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To Thine own Self be True
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