Saving God's / 'our churches' - and getting them busy again.

[one-light]

On this planet of free will - I think we can all agree that's in play... And here we all are worldwide zooming off here and there - and it must be so frustrating for God and Angels 'when we don't listen' pedalling off in the wrong direction 'and' church people......

Ohh ive been there, then receiving guidance and thinking after, why didn't I think of that.... So we have already discussed some of this on this thread, calming the mind to listen - as we should know and mention in churches.

Welcome here many Methodists from the ten thousand member FB group, and others who've joined us here - some would already be looking on here from many links before, on many groups - I'd posted on there many times last year in my training days 'for me' re how church people think and reply, went ok my time there / training for me - and wasn't going to go back, focusing on here - but God had plans, and He got me up this morning.

I've been there so many times early 2020 / 22 awoken by the Holy Spirit set your watch by the timing, many days, it's all on this thread somewhere, and links - and now roar up a level / tinnitus up - get up my lad... So I do, cup of tea, and ask 'what am I looking for God and Angels' - most of you wouldn't believe God can present things for your attention on FB - oh noooo they say...

Anyway 2nd time of looking in between a couple of online chess moves to calm my mind - there it was on the Methodist top spot as nearly always happens, or near to top on timeline... It was a nice image with John Wesley's name - then I'm thinking God this I'm to reply to - but what to say - bit of calm and then I know - to mention this thread again, with directions.

So, Spiritual Awakening, when was that last discussed in church?? Maybe it's not important enough - it is to someone or many - 'knowledge' and enjoyable to listen to for 5 mins from a mind'body'spirit specialist, there'll be one in town - it'll bring new people in.

I had gone through a lot of this spiritual awakening over the last decade - then in 2020 belly grumbling as going to bed / learning, receiving guidance... Then one day in the park 'and what's the chance of this' a lady tells me you need to be baptised a 2nd time by the Holy Spirit - all sorted...

A spiritual specialist can bring so many in church if we learn about God's Mysterious Ways - you don't get an email oh no - it's hot in bed, dreams / tinnitus / head sounds / restless legs etc etc - and we need to know some of this in churches.

And we can discuss so much more here to help church people / and others looking on, with links and knowledge that people here have...

[sky]

[Quote one-light.]

" hot in bed, dreams / tinnitus / head sounds / restless legs etc etc - and we need to know some of this in churches"

Why do you think that Churchgoers need know these things ?...
To be honest with you if I went to a Church Service that included these things I would never go back,
but that's my personal opinion only. There is a time and place for everything but I don't think a Church Service is the correct venue.
Some may be interested in these discussions and mybe you could start an after-church group and a place you could meet up in....

Originally Posted by sky

[Quote one-light.

hot in bed, dreams / tinnitus / head sounds / restless legs etc etc - and we need to know some of this in churches ]

Why do you think that Churchgoers need know these things ?...
To be honest with you if I went to a Church Service that included these things I would never go back,
in....

Sky,

I agree…..there is nothing inspiring about stooping to the lowest common denominator……and it is a huge step to assume that that is ‘common’….any shock therapy in the Gospel is for reaching a higher level IMO…….not for sinking…..

[sky]

[quote=Molearner]

Originally Posted by sky

Sky,

I agree…..there is nothing inspiring about stooping to the lowest common denominator……and it is a huge step to assume that that is ‘common’….any shock therapy in the Gospel is for reaching a higher level IMO…….not for sinking…..

Definitely not for me inside or outside of Church, but to each their own

[one-light]

It must be churches own free choice, I just share ideas... I've put a copy of my message & link on 2 of my/our groups asking them to support; come to our church on Sunday, those that want to, as I may one day do 5 mins talks in there at some point if they support, and Elders ask, and to help make this possibly happen... So Sunday we'll see what the people think, if they come - we shall see.

Remember church people - we're trying to attract the next generation, the 1000's in town's who believe in spirit, so they enjoy it - they're out there waiting.

We have to interest them, so they tell others, it's good in there... And 10:10 on the post time...

[one-light]

All quiet, nice sleep - message delivered... And Angel Sparkles are back, I first started seeing these Sparkles after a NDE in 2015, witnessed my sprit exited ready to fly in bed that day - then felt a hand on my forehead and recovered so fast, I was driving a car the next day - and 6 months it took for me to realise I have become psychic.

So when God steps in to guide the Angels back off slightly - the outside reflection comes on under the eaves in my conservatory that stops when God is close guiding, it'll be back this evening glowing slightly with approval of something.

So as me and my Angels my lovely Guides and Higher Self get busy 'gut feeling / clear knowing guidance' we are a team, little me on the ground... It was the same when the Holy Sprit was guiding me in 2020 / 22 all that covid goings on / Angels not as prominent, as the Holy Spirit led with guidance...

So I've got much more to write here 'about life' and why shouldn't this be discussed in church for 5 mins a time - you'll get many people say we're not changing - that fair enough.

More to say here if it gets busy... Have a good day / evening lovely people.

[Native spirit]

[Quote one-light.]

" hot in bed, dreams / tinnitus / head sounds / restless legs etc etc - and we need to know some of this in churches"

What a stupid statement to make I agree with Sky


Namaste

[one-light]

It just shows how much people know / or don't - even on here... I was shown this Sonic Boom I called it as part of my spiritual training, and wrote on here 'looking for answers' a couple of years ago; science calls it Exploding Head Syndrome - 'now I know' I can say to my Angels in meditation, don't let me nod off, I've work to do - and they'll wake me with a gentle boom / pinging sound.

Dreams we know of that - tinnitus can vary with connection / guidance coming in - and restless legs in bed, had a lot of that when the Holy Spirit was guiding a few years ago...

[WhiteWarrior]

Originally Posted by duck2929

Well, no not me. I used to go to a church, and...

A post that needs more comments. I am glad for you finding the words for your experience, I know from experience such things can fester a lifetime.

You describe a rather unpleasant little community. It could have been just about any little group though, not just a church. I too would want nothing more to do with them and feel affronted if they actually came after me. Not all wounds will, can or should heal within a single lifetime. Like you I may forget but I do not forgive, nor do I ask to be forgiven. I have to stand for the things I have done and I expect the same of the entire rest of the world. Anyone who asks for forgivement want to escape the price for the fun they took from me. Why would I let them have that? They knew what they did when they did it. Let my resent be a cloud, however small, over their heads for as long as I am forced to remember.

One point I'm a little cagey about is what you and that group disagreed on. There's things it is reasonable that a disagreement, schism, ban or reporting to the police would be logical. I'm not going to make examples here as there must be millions of them. But if it was basically 'no, we are not going to do that here, it is against our culture or religion' then dropping it sounds okay. If it is 'YOU are beneath us' I'd be gone before the sentence was finishing being uttered. Permanently. Based on what you have said I'd be so done with that place, and looking for somewhere where things actually could work out.

Fruit baskets? Now there is insanity. Deny signing for them, and return to sender.

[sky]

Originally Posted by one-light

It just shows how much people know / or don't - even on here...

But that's just your opinion one-light to which you are entitled. People do not go to a Church Service to hear about the physical experiences of others, (we can hear about these symptoms standing in a supermarket queue or a Doctors Surgery waiting room ), they go to hear Christian Teachings based on the life of Jesus.
Surely you can start an after-church group for these discussions that may be of interest to like minded people but to intergrate them into a Church Service would be unacceptable, imo.....