Do you think the Old Testament is made up?

The Tower of Babel is allegory and symbolism…..representing the movement away from God….Babel being synonymous with Babylon….it can be understood symbolically but the explanation is lengthy….suffice to say that we continue to symbolically continue our attempts to construct our Tower of Babel….


Suggestion: contrast Babylon with Zion…..

The language of Babel was and is Ego……

[Miss Hepburn]

So would the Babel story be metaphor, never happened?
Or do some here think it is true, exactly?

[sky]

Originally Posted by Molearner

The Tower of Babel is allegory and symbolism…..

The language of Babel was and is Ego……

In what way Mo ?

[sky]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Or do some here think it is true, exactly?

Not me, it's a Myth.... Imo.

Originally Posted by sky

In what way Mo ?

Having had one language God turned it to babble(Babel)….no longer being able to communicate with others creates separation from others…not only does ego separate us from God it separates us from our fellow man. The story of Babel demonstrates why this was inevitable. To arrive at Babel they moved away from the east. Symbolically the east represents wisdom and knowledge….re the Magi(wise men), sun rising in the east, etc. Also Babel was a plain…..lower elevation also a symbol for lower level of knowledge.

Now their intention was the building of a tower that would reach heaven….an attempt to reach God by their own power…..to do this they used man made brick instead of stone…(Christ being the Rock of God, Peter being the rock). Stone is a symbol for fundamental truth(10 Commandments, etc). To hold these bricks together they used slime….dooming it to futility.

The lesson all being to look to God for ascension….it cannot be a result of one’s efforts……realize this is a short version….:)

[BigJohn]

Alexander the Great believed the Tower of Babel existed. When he saw it, it was in ruins.He had the ruins torn down with the intent of rebuilding it. It got torn down and never rebuilt. Saddam Hussein tried rebuilding the city while the US Army inadvertently damaged what was left.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Molearner

To hold these bricks together they used slime….dooming it to futility.

The Bible claims bitumen was used.

1 or 2 years ago...... I was at a place in which the ground I was walking on appeared 'normal' till all of a sudden, bitumen started to emerge from the ground.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Hi - what is that? And thanks.

well people never seem to be on the same page as each other, the tower of babel story nicely explains that lol by kinda hinting that people organize there thoughts about what they want or how things should be organized in different ways depending on what group they are a part of ... the story basically says, communications are going to be awkward because noone knows what anyone else is saying... it was actually worse than that though, not only did anyone know what anyone else was saying, they didn't even know that was happening. They thought they understood perfectly and often disliked their own understanding of what was being said enough to cause conflicts in the physical world.

the story also explains away some of the things I see people refusing to do. Having been punished that way in such a big way as happened there, for a specific activity, doesn't make one want to proceed...

and along with a lot of the other stuff that is said a I got an understanding of why us forcing our way into heaven the way they tried at babel there is not any more of a good idea than us becoming like god's 'us' the way I've heard some proclaim as so good, and why that 'tower' had to be knocked down just as surely as we had to be kicked out of eden.

babel in my mind was like an attitude or way of life, but there had to be a city or other place for it since we always create solid things to mimic what our minds are doing... as far as I can tell. But as I think about it now the 'tower' likely wasn't made of bricks and mortar, more likely of energy fields of some sort... from what I can tell in other times/places people were often quite advanced with technologies and other stuff, even more so than we are now. For example, just to stick to what might be true in the current reality, there is some stuff out there hinting that the atlanteans were heavily involved in understanding the energies related to crystals.

by making people speak different 'languages' god made a situation where the energy fields required to make the tower simply couldn't be formed, because noone would never be on the same page as the others and so the various players who hold the 'keys' that could make it happen would be incentivized not to turn them at the same time.

well that is what comes to mind when I think of the tower of babel story. Like I say it holds a lot of meaning for me, but not so much for other people I guess lol...

[keiw1]

Originally Posted by sky

And yet the Jewish People are still waiting for the Messiah to arrive.

They were aposticised when Jesus came. They falsely reasoned the Messiah was coming as a mighty king to rid them of Roman rule. A carpenters son showed up. His kingship did not start until Rev 6:2

[keiw1]

Originally Posted by sky

Really.... then 9 Mortals would have been saved on the Ark, not 8.

Jesus was in heaven. By Gods side as his master worker-Prov 8:30)