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Old 23-04-2024, 03:27 AM
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Awareness bereft of love is barren, as I often reflect upon. So whilst it is great to attune attention in form or void at any enabled frequency, what about love? It is the missing link and probably the reason we are here.

In this connection, I stumbled upon this great video by Aaron Abke today ~

https://youtu.be/2q3HPRBUdks?si=by5dfZ1OtQcU8ONi
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Old 23-04-2024, 04:18 AM
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Awareness bereft of love is barren, as I often reflect upon.
During the peak of my experience it was beyond love. Beyond hate. Beyond any emotion. It was like an unbridled contentment, seeking nothing and fleeing nothing. Everything was equally amazing and wonderful. It was a child-like innocence and wonderment.

When I was young
It seemed that life was so wonderful
A miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical
And all the birds in the trees
Well they'd be singing so happily
Oh joyfully, oh playfully watching me


I think that's comparable to those times in deep meditation when doership vanishes along with space and time. The no-mind equivalent to the waking experience where mind is present.
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Old 23-04-2024, 04:36 AM
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@ JASG ~ yes, space and time disappear, we are in ineffable peace and feel complete, as light of Self renews itself within itself in unending renewal, where we have complete freedom and act only as of choiceless choice (as I so became) but even so, I do not take this as completion. It is merely seeing ourselves as we were, are and will be, with ego removed.
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Old 23-04-2024, 05:01 AM
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@ JASGI do not take this as completion.
I like a verse from the Kena Upanishad that goes something like "I cannot say I know It well, yet I cannot say I do not know It".

I guess it is a Never-Ending Story because it never began. Not only outside of time and space but also causation. I can't even fathom infinity.
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Old 23-04-2024, 01:13 PM
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BEYOND SAMADHI TRANSLATION BEGINS,

Blessings Unseeking seeker you posed the question about what about love?
Love surely only comes online with expression, which means life and existence
have the ability for love, but within the Absolute SELF love does not exist as
a presented phenomena, but rather is a potentiality within the SELF which is
the NOUMENON. THE ABSOLUTE does not love itself, rather it just is,

regards m ichael.
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Old 23-04-2024, 01:54 PM
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The process of translation is that of UNCOVERING the KOSHIC sheaths that
cover the SELF ATOM and he process of what could be called that of Divine
EVATPORATION removes the layers of KOSHIC sheaths and translates the
physical form into pure white spirit light.

What you are describing is the standard pancha koshas (five sheaths), the concept of which originated from the Taittriya Upanishad.

I would be very interested in how this translation/transformation process manifested in you personally.
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Old 23-04-2024, 01:59 PM
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Complete and total surrender to the ALL that is with full aware integrity and
Humility, the surrender of the ego lower self, all that you are, all your ideas;
your opinions,

When this is done the inner silence expands into infinity and becomes
absolute profoundness .

How did this experience of surrender unfold in you personally ?
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Old 23-04-2024, 02:01 PM
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I like a verse from the Kena Upanishad that goes something like "I cannot say I know It well, yet I cannot say I do not know It".
I guess it is a Never-Ending Story because it never began. Not only outside of time and space but also causation. I can't even fathom infinity.
I have often used that phrase from the Kena Upanishad. "Neither do I know nor do I not know."
Thank you for introducing that to this thread.
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Old 23-04-2024, 02:34 PM
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Blessings Unseeking seeker you posed the question about what about love?
Love surely only comes online with expression, which means life and existence
have the ability for love, but within the Absolute SELF love does not exist as
a presented phenomena, but rather is a potentiality within the SELF which is
the NOUMENON. THE ABSOLUTE does not love itself, rather it just is,
Yes, that is known on recognition of Self in singularity. Thus, even whilst feeling complete and feeling no lack, as awareness self-aware, the choiceless choice for immersion in duality possibly is spurred by the innate ‘need’ to embody agape love in the awareness field. That is why I say that recognition of Self does not signal completion.

Since there is no learning in singularity because there are no adversities to overcome, that’s why we choose to engage in earth life perhaps.
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Old 23-04-2024, 04:06 PM
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I understand what you are describing, although I'm not sure it helps anyone, because they will have a conceptual idea they are trying to achieve, i.e. what you describe. This can be like chasing the rainbow which ever recedes. If one is aware here and now lives life accordingly, lives in the moment, things fall into place and the seeker begins to loosen it's hold as a natural process, and what unfolds, if it is what you describe, unfolds naturally without striving for some idea of it.
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