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Old 04-03-2019, 03:23 AM
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paradox indeed
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Old 04-03-2019, 03:32 AM
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If we perceive God as causeless, its reason to exist is "no reason". Paradox

It is human nature to put God outside of the universal laws, in a special bubble and a special pedestal.
I hope that our own creations will have better and clearer perspectives of us than we are of our own creators.
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Old 04-03-2019, 03:44 AM
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Well. yep. It has never always been.

I reckon you don't know that either. Until you know for yourself, it's all speculation, and that goes for all of us here
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Old 04-03-2019, 03:46 AM
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''Why?"...I wouldn't even try...I would get a headache....
I mean it.

It's a good fortune - Buddha said there were some things which are called imponderables. Only a fully Awakened Buddha could know, others would just go crazy (or post on internet forums like us )
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Old 04-03-2019, 04:07 AM
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If I know, I wouldn't be asking.

The reality is, knowing this does not make any difference.

The ants in an ant farm probably wonder who we are.
Even those ants learn who we are, their lives will stay and go on as is - trapped in that ant farm.
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Old 04-03-2019, 04:12 AM
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If I know, I wouldn't be asking.

Indeed. Point taken
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Old 04-03-2019, 09:27 AM
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there are texts that hint of why god was born, a little about his growing up, a little about what happened when he was grown. I was all just the vaguest of hints but I got the gist of what happened anyway.

If you have an open mind when you stumble on such texts you might see that this isn't wholly hidden from view.

but all you are going to get on the internet is people saying 'well I can't know therefore it follows that you can't either'.

and like you say why does it even matter?
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Old 04-03-2019, 11:16 AM
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Other creators, including humanity. Aren't we creators ourselves? Yes we are and yes we have been.

Co creators yes.
So who are these other creators that are not humanity?
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Old 04-03-2019, 04:57 PM
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Co creators yes.
So who are these other creators that are not humanity?

Esoteric traditions teach that the universe we inhabit is the expression of great Beings within even greater Beings within still greater Beings, and so on.

Humanity (as a whole) as creator is fairly low down the scale. And within humanity as a whole, each one of us is also a creator of our own lives. The creative energy flows within each one of us, and our creations are a reflection of ourselves.

As above, so below.

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Old 05-03-2019, 01:03 AM
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there are texts that hint of why god was born, a little about his growing up, a little about what happened when he was grown. I was all just the vaguest of hints but I got the gist of what happened anyway.

If you have an open mind when you stumble on such texts you might see that this isn't wholly hidden from view.

but all you are going to get on the internet is people saying 'well I can't know therefore it follows that you can't either'.

and like you say why does it even matter?

Being human means being curious, even at our own demise (like cats).
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WHAT?!!
You read such texts about why God was born, his childhood, and etc??!!! Like in Wikipedia?
Information with this kind of magnitude must be shared. - with me.
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